Rolex Oyster Perpetual Submariner Date

Rolex Oyster Perpetual Submariner Date

Recently, I wrote a blog about my Top 10 diving watches. We received a certain amount of feedback, on this site and the forums, about the absence of the Rolex Submariner. Why did the world’s most iconic diving watch not make my list of top 10? I am glad you asked…

I deliberately left out the Submariner and I did so, knowing this would raise some eyebrows. I respect the Rolex Submariner immensely. I believe it is one of the highest quality products on Earth. I believe it has earned its reputation as one of the ultimate tool watches ever made. And… I do not care for the Submariner. I really dislike the hands and the dot minute markers. I just don’t like the aesthetics and I cannot put it on my list.

There is another factor at play which we call the Rolex Submariner Guy Syndrome. You see, the Sub seems to be the watch of choice for affluent men who “need” an expensive watch while not caring at all for the masterpiece on their wrist. I don’t want to be mistaken for this guy. Sure, savvy watch aficionados buy Subs because it is a grail to many. These guys appreciate their watches and pass the Sub down to their grandkids. These are my kind of guys. But I have met quite a few others, sporting a Sub, who proudly explain that it doesn’t need a battery when asked about it. And it’s a common piece — so common, that is has gotten cliche. On my last vacation, I was surrounded by Submariners in the pool. Maybe you see so many Subs because they are just great watches. Maybe. But I cannot take that chance. I think it’s more likely that you see Subs everywhere being worn by unsophisticated guys because it is so famous that people seek it out as an obviously expensive watch. That’s a turnoff.

I am clearly a victim of reverse marketing and I’m probably trying to be cool myself by hating on a popular watch. But I just cannot allocate a spot on my Top 10 to a watch the I find unattractive and cliche. I respect it, but I don’t like it and for ten grand, I can find many other phenomenal timepieces.

Yours truly,


  • Mountainous Man

    I think it’s about as logical as leaving a 911 of the top 10 sports car list. Sure, people of all types may buy them, and we see them everywhere, but they’re still high performing classics and shouldn’t be penalized for it.

    If anything, I think there’s something cooler about just going out and buying a nice watch vs. watch nerds like us overanalyzing the things to death and forming some kind of false self esteem for knowing more about them than others. Do we actually think Steve McQueen sat around and read about watch movement nuances before buying a Sub? Was he debating between red and white lettering or applied and printed indices? Nope. He just wanted to buy a good, tough watch, and I think it’s great that sentiment still holds true today.

    I had a new friend in town a couple of weeks ago, and I was surprised to see him wearing an Aqua Terra 8500, because I wear an Aqua Terra 2500 daily, so I thought it would be fun to chat about it. The Omega is his only watch, and he’s worn it everyday for 7 years, and, while he knows a little about watches, I kept trying to get into the minutia with him. It really just made me feel a bit embarrassed, as if I was trying to bond with him over the inner workings of a typewriter. I don’t think I was the “cool” one in this situation. lol

  • Matthew Rowe

    I read into your statement about just not liking it and was satisfied. The either stuff about everyone having one, etc is off little importance to me. You don’t like them, and that’s great.

  • Loren McCoy

    Leaving the the Rolex Submariner out of a top ten list of dive watches means you either don’t know what you’re talking about or you’re a fucking hipster. I mean, just because you don’t like the driver of a Ferrari, doesn’t mean you should hate the car. You should get over yourself. You are totally overthinking the subject.

  • Kurt Klimisch

    I agree. I think you missed the worst part of the watch – its iconic cyclops which destroys any symmetry to the design and is there for “old” people who can’t see anymore. Disclosure- I am an old person but I don’t want my watch reminding me of my feeble eyesight every time I look at it – besides that is what bifocals are for. The cyclops should be for the date just – not a tool watch. Good for you not putting it on your list.

  • TimeCaptain

    At the end of the day, I don’t like the Rolex Submariner. I think it’s hideous. Why would I include a hideous watch on my own top ten list? How much sense does that make? “I hate the Sub, but if I don’t include it in my list, people will criticise me. So I guess I’ll include it even though I would never buy one. Yeah, I’ll just add things I hate onto every top ten list I write. ”
    The Rolex Submariner is a world class product and worthy of its icon status.
    But I will continue to highlight watches that I would actually buy rather than those I dislike.

  • Loren McCoy

    Fair enough. The lugs are too wide.